Tuesday, November 13, 2007

Coyoeuglly is vindicated?

Last Friday night Coyoeuglly got assaulted by another (peripheral) member of our playgroup for taking a Lash Out over Deathrender 1st pick 1st pack. Actually the guy was salty because Major Luck ended up pounding the hell out of him with the Deathrender, not really because of Coyoeuglly's card choice. Regardless, Coyoeuglly got shit all night for it. Now, I think Deathrender is really good, in almost any deck, but even I thought the Lash Out pick was justified given the kind of decks Coyoeuglly drafts. Now, we have an opinion from the Mothership's own Quentin Martin, albeit one that is hastily tossed off as an aside. I will quote; "Deathrender is far too expensive for what it does, although it is still okay, but six mana to give a guy +2/+2 is pricey." He also ignores the second ability of the sword, which is obviously more relevant for most decks. Keep in mind this comment comes as ol' McMarty is deliberating his FOURTH pick, not his first of the pack. So in his in tempo-oriented faeries deck, Q wouldn't touch this Deathrender with a 10-foot clown pole. Is this a vindication for Coyoeuglly? I don't know. But it does seem to imply that we may be valuing the rusty sword a little higher than we should be. Or do we know better than this four-time Limited Grand Prix Top 8er?

6 comments:

The Captain said...

Mmm, I actually spent a good 15 minutes last night trying to convice Matt that taking that lashout was a fine pick, but he still wasn't hearing it. I think he mentioned it to me expecting me to say, "WHAT?! How could he pass such an amazing bomb??!!?" But i didn't say that...he just tends to get upset when he gets blown out.

Captain Essex said...

While Deathrender is quite good, I think that all too often drafters overvalue any bomb rare, just because they're so rare. As a first pick, I believe the equipment is the way to go, just because it really goes into most decks, and is really good.

Matt said...

I am with our ptq top 8er and our black lotus boy. Lash out is the pick.

Defender in Exile said...

The problem is we have become too enamoured of equipment as of late. We still have the Jitte hangover, and skullclamp is still spoken of in hushed whispers. Even Sunforger and Sword of the Paruns were strong, if expensive.

The problem with Deathrender, is the conditions. Hey I get a free creature is trumped in a tempo based draft format, especially if any creature you'd want to drop you would have been able to cast over the time you dropped and equipped Deathrender, and this assumes the equipped creature dies.

All the other equipment did something huge without the restrictive conditions. However, most of us see big condition and bite, but even I must claim to have been wrong about this.

Mayhaps Wizards isn't underpricing equipment anymore.

major_luck said...

After talking it over with Q, lash out was definately the pick for his deck, as two mana removal is huge in a tempo driven deck. If lash out hade been in the pack when i saw it, then it would have been the pick for my deck as well, as cheap removal is always in short supply. However, in an aggressive mid range creature style deck (triple warren pilferers makes all the difference) Deathrender is the pick over tarfire.

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