New Cube adds and cuts (through Scars of Mirrodin)

I was procrastinating on this, sorry. It turned out to be less work than I expected. A full list will be up sometime, maybe this weekend. Lots of sacred cows were slaughtered this time around, and only a few fistfights occurred. Thanks especially to Russ for stepping up and loaning dual lands to the Cube again, as well as de-proxying Mana Drain, among other cards. I personally think some of these adds are stinkers, but this is a democracy and I voted, so I get to complain, right? The new Scars Replicas in particular seem not good enough, but eh. We killed a full cycle of multicolor lands, plus the signets, in addition decreasing multicolor by 20 cards, including all the 3 color cards. I'll be interested to see if we actually hosed multicolor, finally. We moved artifacts with colored activations to that color, hence Memnarch being "In" in Blue and "Out" in artifacts. The only downside to adding so many mono-colored cards is we couldn't cut as many stinkers from each of the five colors as I wanted to. If we are missing any good mono-colored cards, let us know in the comments. I think midweek next week will be the first time I will have time to host a Cube. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to 2 headed giant Lorwyn/Shadowmoor draft hosted by CBG this weekend. My team will forcing giants... in 2HG draft! Get it? ...Ugh.

IN
U Frost Titan
U Scroll Thief
U Aether Adept
U Jace's Ingenuity
U Preordain
U Conundrum sphinx
U Quicksilver Gargantua
U Memnarch

G Primeval Titan
G Fauna Shaman
G Garruk's Packleader
G Obstinate Baloth
G Cultivate
G Gaea's Revenge
G Genesis Wave
G Mitotic Slime
G Overwhelming Stampede
G Garruk's Companion
G Cudgel Troll
G Sylvok replica
G Ezuri's Brigade
G Bellowing Tanglewurm
G Tower Above
G Sylvan Ranger

Chimeric Mass
Contagion Engine
Moltentail Masticore
Crystal Ball
Brittle Effigy
Wurmcoil Engine
Precursor Golem
Ratchet Bomb
Mimic Vat
Infiltration Lens
Nim Deathmantle
Trusty machete

R Inferno Titan
R Ember Hauler
R Chandra's Outrage
R Reverberate
R Hoarding Dragon
R Chandra's Spitfire
R Arc Slogger
R Kiln Fiend
R Jiwari, the Earth Aflame
R Arc Trail
R Vulshok Replica
R Koth, the Hammer
R Spikeshot Elder
R Magma Phoenix
R Oxidda Scrapmelter
R Wildfire

Mystifying Maze

W War Priest of Thune
W Elspeth Tiriel
W Sunblast Angel
W Glimmerpoint Stag
W True Conviction
W Dawnglare Invoker
W Soltari Champion
W Indomitable Archangel
W Kor Aeronaut
W Knight Exemplar

B Liliana's Specter
B Carnifex Demon
B Grasp of Darkness
B Geth, Lord of the Vault
B Painful Quandry
B Skinrender
B Moriok Replica
B Necrogen Scutter
B Grave Titan

WU Venser, the Sojourner

OUT
Lightkeeper of Emeria
Story Circle
Admonition Angel
Twilight Shepherd
Pristine Angel

Corrupted Zendikon
Corpse Connoisseur
Lord of the undead
undead warchief

Sulfur Elemental
Frenzied Goblin
Tribal Flames
Crusher Zendikon
Sudden Shock
Kamahl Pit Fighter
Reckless Wurm
Heat Shimmer
Dragonmaster Outcast
Goblin Matron
Johkulhaups??

Golgari Grave troll
Caller of the Claw
Vinelasher Kudzu
Iwamori of the Open fist
Scryb ranger
reach of branches
Simian Grunts
Defense of the Heart
Awakening Zone
Berserk
Seal of Primordium

Ophidian
Cache Raiders
Lighthouse Chronologist

All signets
etched oracle
obelisk of alara
memnarch

The Ravnica "Karoo" bouncelands
Urza's Factory

Putrid Leech
Swans of Brynn Argoll
Mistmeadow Witch
Goblin Legionnaire
Burning-Tree Shaman
Shambling Remains
Soul Manipulation
Temporal Spring
Nucklavee
Tidehollow Sculler
Armadillo Cloak
Rafiq of the Many
Bant Charm
Doran, the Siege Tower
Lightning Angel
Woolly Thoctar
Lavalanche
Broodmate Dragon
Rhox War Monk
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Sphinx of the Steel Wind

TooSarcastic's Cube Draft List V1.1

Finally! The colors are not balanced. There is too little Green and Red and too much White and Blue. Cuts will have to be made. Also I have Karoos in there right now where there could be painlands. Would people be willing to borrow original duals to this thing? Major Luck doesn't like the idea of having that much $ in there. Having said that, obviously we have no Power. Does it matter? Who knows.

Next stop- cuts and adds. If you have any cards that you think are better for the Cube than the weakest cards already in that color AND you don't mind borrowing/trading/donating them to the Cube, shout out in posts.

WHITE
Adarkar Valkyrie
Ajani Goldmane
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Armageddon
Arrest
Aura of Silence
Austere Command
Aven Mindcensor
Aven Riftwatcher
Blade of the Sixth Pride
Blinding Angel
Calciderm
Cloudchaser Kestrel
Condemn
Crovax, Ascendant Hero
Crusade
Deftblade Elite
Descendant of Kiyomaro
Devouring Light
Disenchant
Empyrial Armor
Enduring Ideal
Enlightened Tutor
Eternal Dragon
Faith's Fetters
Genju of the Fields
Ghostly Prison
Glorious Anthem
Goldmeadow Harrier
Griffin Guide
Honorable Passage
Icatian Javelineers
Jötun Grunt
Kami of Ancient Law
Kami of False Hope
Knight of Meadowgrain
Knight of the Holy Nimbus
Longbow Archer
Mana Tithe
Martyr of Sands
Momentary Blink
Mother of Runes
Oblivion Ring
Order of Leitbur
Order of the White Shield
Pacifism
Paladin en-Vec
Pariah
Radiant's Dragoons
Radiant's Judgment
Renewed Faith
Reya Dawnbringer
Ronom Unicorn
Sacred Mesa
Samurai of the Pale Curtain
Savannah Lions
Soltari Priest
Soul Warden
Stonecloaker
Swords to Plowshares
Temporal Isolation
True Believer
White Knight
White Shield Crusader
Wing Shards
Wrath of God

BLUE
Aeon Chronicler
Aquamoeba
Arcane Denial
Blue Elemental Blast
Boomerang
Braingeyser
Brainstorm
Brine Elemental
Capsize
Cloud Spirit
Compulsive Research
Confiscate
Control Magic
Counterspell
Cryptic Command
Dandan
Deep Analysis
Desertion
Disrupt
Dissipate
Drift of Phantasms
Fathom Seer
Forbid
Force of Will
Force Spike
Frantic Search
Hydroblast
Impulse
Intruder Alarm
Jace Beleren
Legacy's Allure
Looter il-Kor
Mana Leak
Man-o'-War
Memory Lapse
Merchant Scroll
Merfolk Looter
Mind Over Matter
Miscalculation
Mystical Teachings
Mystical Tutor
Ninja of the Deep Hours
Ophidian
Pact of Negation
Ponder
Power Sink
Propaganda
Ray of Command
Remand
Repeal
Repulse
Riftwing Cloudskate
Rushing River
Spell Snare
Spiketail Hatchling
Stasis
Stroke of Genius
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Temporal Adept
Thieving Magpie
Tinker
Undo
Unstable Mutation
Upheaval
Venser, Shaper Savant
Vesuvan Shapeshifter
Voidmage Prodigy
Waterfront Bouncer

BLACK
Animate Dead
Bad Moon
Black Knight
Bone Shredder
Carnophage
Consume Spirit
Contamination
Corpse Dance
Corrupt
Crypt Champion
Crypt Rats
Damnation
Dark Confidant
Dark Ritual
Darkblast
Dauthi Horror
Dauthi Slayer
Death Denied
Diabolic Edict
Diabolic Servitude
Drain Life
Dread Return
Duress
Erg Raiders
Exhume
Faceless Butcher
Flesh Reaver
Funeral Charm
Graveborn Muse
Haakon, Stromgald Scourge
Hatred
Hymn to Tourach
Hypnotic Specter
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
Knight of Stromgald
Last Gasp
Liliana Vess
Nameless Inversion
Nantuko Husk
Necromancy
Necropotence
Nezumi Graverobber
Okiba-Gang Shinobi
Oona's Prowler
Paralyze
Persecute
Pestilence
Phyrexian Arena
Phyrexian Rager
Plagued Rusalka
Pox
Priest of Gix
Ravenous Rats
Sarcomancy
Shadow Guildmage
Shriekmaw
Skeletal Vampire
Skittering Skirge
Smallpox
Smother
Spinning Darkness
Stinkweed Imp
Stromgald Crusader
Sudden Death
Tendrils of Corruption
Terror
Twisted Abomination
Unearth

RED
Akroma, Angel of Fury
Avalanche Riders
Bogardan Hellkite
Boom // Bust
Browbeat
Chandra Nalaar
Earthquake
Empty the Warrens
Fiery Temper
Fireball
Fireblast
Fireslinger
Flame Fusillade
Frenzied Goblin
Gathan Raiders
Goblin Bombardment
Goblin Grenade
Goblin Matron
Goblin Patrol
Grapeshot
Grinning Ignus
Hearth Kami
Hostility
Incinerate
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Jokulhaups
Keldon Marauders
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
Kird Ape
Lash Out
Lava Hounds
Lightning Bolt
Magus of the Scroll
Mana Flare
Mogg Fanatic
Mogg Flunkies
Mogg War Marshal
Orcish Lumberjack
Pyroblast
Pyroclasm
Reckless Wurm
Red Elemental Blast
Scorched Rusalka
Seal of Fire
Shard Phoenix
Shock
Siege-Gang Commander
Simian Spirit Guide
Stone Rain
Sudden Shock
Sulfur Elemental
Tarfire
Threaten
Tin Street Hooligan
Tribal Flames
Wheel of Fortune
Word of Seizing

GREEN
Arrogant Wurm
Basking Rootwalla
Beacon of Creation
Birds of Paradise
Blanchwood Armor
Briarhorn
Carven Caryatid
Channel
Doubling Season
Early Harvest
Elves of Deep Shadow
Essence Warden
Fertile Ground
Fyndhorn Elves
Gaea’s Anthem
Garruk Wildspeaker
Giant Growth
Harmonize
Harrow
Hurricane
Indrik Stomphowler
Kodama's Reach
Krosan Grip
Life from the Loam
Llanowar Elves
Loaming Shaman
Might of Oaks
Moldervine Cloak
Mtenda Lion
Natural Order
Naturalize
Overrun
Phantom Centaur
Protean Hulk
Quirion Dryad
Quirion Ranger
Rampant Growth
Rancor
Regrowth
River Boa
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Scryb Ranger
Simian Grunts
Spectral Bears
Thelonite Hermit
Timbermare
Trained Armodon
Troll Ascetic
Uktabi Orangutan
Verdant Force
Viridian Shaman
Wall of Blossoms
Wall of Roots
Wild Dogs
Wood Elves

MULTICOLORED
Armadillo Cloak
Azorius Guildmage
Burning-Tree Shaman
Dovescape
Electrolyze
Gelectrode
Ghost Council of Orzhova
Grave-Shell Scarab
Lightning Angel
Lightning Helix
Mortify
Mystic Enforcer
Mystic Snake
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Putrefy
Rakdos Guildmage
Recoil
Savage Twister
Selesnya Guildmage
Simic Guildmage
Stormbind
Void
Watchwolf
Who/What/When/Where/Why

ARTIFACTS
Altar of Dementia
Black Vise
Bottle Gnomes
Bottled Cloister
Coalition Relic
Fellwar Stone
Icy Manipulator
Isochron Scepter
Ivory Tower
Juggernaut
Lotus Bloom
Lotus Petal
Loxodon Warhammer
Mana Vault
Memory Jar
Millstone
Mirari
Mox Diamond
Nevinyrral's Disk
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Platinum Angel
Prismatic Lens
Scroll Rack
Serrated Arrows
Sol Ring
Static Orb
Tormod's Crypt
Winter Orb
Zuran Orb

LANDS
Academy Ruins
Azorius Chancery
Blood Crypt
Boros Garrison
Breeding Pool
Dimir Aqueduct
Godless Shrine
Golgari Rot Farm
Gruul Turf
Hallowed Fountain
Izzet Boilerworks
Orzhov Basilica
Overgrown Tomb
Rakdos Carnarium
Sacred Foundry
Selesnya Sanctuary
Simic Growth Chamber
Steam Vents
Stomping Ground
Strip Mine
Temple Garden
Terramorphic Expanse
Treetop Village
Underground River

Cube Draft Update.

This thing has taken over my life. I am pretty close to something resembling an 8-man cube using only my cards. It should be done by the weekend, regardless of whether or not it gets used. But the process has also raised some questions as to how to balance cube ownership and control with playgroup interest and investedness. Okay, maybe that doesn't make any sense to you. Let my chat with Captain Bondage Goth underscore the point.

10:47 AM
me: This cube thing is getting out of hand
10:48 AM
CBG: in terms of...?
me: I have probably spent ten hours just organizing it. I think I'm close to getting an 8 person cube together with just my cards. Although I don't how exciting it will be.
CBG: well, I can contribute cards
10:49 AM
me: I'm still trying to figure out if that's what I want.
10:50 AM
CBG: I think we should get group cube together for maximum awesomeness
10:51 AM
but I can see the point of not wanting to have it "group-owned" as it were
me: Yeah, I'm on the fence. How much importance is there in knowing I can change it when I want, or not have to keep track of whose cards are whose, there are drawbacks to both ways of doing it.
CBG: But it'll make the moxes cheaper to share the cost :D
10:52 AM
me: So far there's no power, only FoW and Braingeyser
CBG: sure I have a winter orb if you want :P
me: Uh, thanks.
CBG: Yeah, and maybe we could include crazy lifegain
10:53 AM
me: Well, I do have Martyr of Sand in there currently. And Ivory Tower.
CBG: Anyhow. I think a group cube where we all have input is the ultimate goal, but maybe it's cool for you to have the whole thing cuz then you can take it to tourneys and such
10:58 AM
me: Who would make the decision of what goes in (or out) when the votes end up being even? If there's one guy who wants to put in his foil Looter-il Kor, but it would mean cutting my Exodus Merfolk Looter, does his vote count as much as mine? And what about when one guy wants to take out my Counterbalance and Diving Top for his Tinker and Darksteel Colossus, how do we decide what happens? Does the fact that I have put more thought into balancing the colors/strategies than anyone else count? On the other hand, will anyone even care if they aren't engaged by group ownership? Tough Calls.
10:59 AM
CBG: Hmm...
11:04 AM
I don't know. I would think foils in general a bad idea, but as to the general point? I think that we are all adults and can reach consensus. I would really like to have a nice powerful cube and the way to do that in my mind is to pool collections. The question in my mind is, is one person the keeper of the list and therefore, the final authority. Which I am happy with you being and which I would shoot myself if it was-
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Whoa there! Seems like a fine place to end the quote. You get the point. There are issues. Ultimately I think Gothy McBondage is right. Group ownership means that everyone actually cares about the Cube. This trumps me being a control freak. But, at the same time, if 90% or so of the cards are mine, I think being "keeper of the list" or whatever you want to call it, is reasonable, as long as it means listening to other people who care about what goes in. Honestly I think the bigger issue is going to be what comes out. Comments about the issue are welcome.
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Cube Draft!

I know Wizards is pushing the idea of Cube Draft as a cool format, etc. etc. Thus I kind of feel guilty jumping on the bandwagon now, since I know many people have been doing it forever. However, reading on SCG like a year ago, it seemed like everyone's Cube needed to be fully powered and had a shit load of older cards that I did not have. But in the Invitational List and (even more so) in Wizard's current Cube List, it seems that cards from all eras were chosen, maybe even with an emphasis on newer sets. It made me optimistic that I could throw an interesting 8-person Cube together with a little effort. There won't be any moxen or Timewalks in this cube, but I am still trying to base the first run-through on the Wizard's lists, replacing cards that I don't have. Later on we could add or remove based on what people liked. If the idea is popular I may ask to trade for some of the older rares. Likewise I might just buy a bunch of the budget uncommons I don't yet have. And hey, it gives me a chance to show off my promo Rakdos Guildmage, foily Ascendent Evincar and the like. It's not like I'm going to be throwing them in decks anyway. A rough count of Wizards' Cube shows 714 cards, which seems a little overboard. I'm guessing I miscounted and there are 720 (enough for 16 people). I highly doubt we'll ever have 16 people desperate to draft my Cube at once, so I am going to set the bar a little lower, at 360 (enough for an 8-man). Would you guys like to try this? If nobody really cares, then I won't bother gathering it up, since you are the only guys I play with anyway. A man can't cube draft by himself.
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